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ТРАМП vs ХИЛЛАРИ 2

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    стольный Абитуриент

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    AP FACT CHECK: Trump's speech stretches on taxes, energy


    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump took his penchant for inflated claims to his biggest stage Tuesday night, asserting in his State of the Union speech that he signed the most consequential tax cuts in history, when his achievement was far from that, and declaring an end to a "war" on energy that did not exist when he took office.

    A look at some of the statements in his speech and how they compare with the facts:

    TRUMP: "We enacted the biggest tax cuts and reform in American history."
    THE FACTS: No truer now than in the countless other times he has said the same. The December tax overhaul ranks behind Ronald Reagan's in the early 1980s, post-World War II tax cuts and at least several more.
    An analysis by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget in the fall put Trump's package as the eighth biggest since 1918. As a percentage of the total economy, Reagan's 1981 cut is the biggest followed by the 1945 rollback of taxes that financed World War II.
    Valued at $1.5 trillion over 10 years, the plan is indeed large and expensive. But it's much smaller than originally intended. Back in the spring, it was shaping up as a $5.5 trillion package. Even then it would have only been the third largest since 1940 as a share of gross domestic product.
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    TRUMP: "After years and years of wage stagnation, we are finally seeing rising wages."
    THE FACTS: Actually, they are not rising any faster than they have before. Average hourly pay rose 2.5 percent in 2017, slightly slower than the 2.9 percent increase recorded in 2016 under President Barack Obama.
    Most economists say that wages should increase at a faster rate as the unemployment rate drops. The unemployment rate stands at a 17-year low of 4.1 percent, but that has done little so far to spark rising wages.
    The last time unemployment was this low, in the late 1990s, average hourly pay was rising at a 4 percent pace.
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    TRUMP: "We have ended the war on American energy."
    THE FACTS: Energy production was unleashed in past administrations, particularly Barack Obama's, making accusations of a war on energy hard to sustain. Advances in hydraulic fracturing before Trump became president made it economical to tap vast reserves of natural gas. Oil production also greatly increased, reducing imports.
    Before the 2016 presidential election, the U.S. for the first time in decades was getting more energy domestically than it imports. Before Obama, George W. Bush was no adversary of the energy industry.
    One of Trump's consequential actions as president on this front was to approve the Keystone XL pipeline — a source of foreign oil, from Canada.
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    TRUMP: "We are now very proudly an exporter of energy to the world."
    THE FACTS: There's nothing new in that: The U.S. has long exported all sorts of energy, while importing even more. If Trump meant that the U.S. has become a net exporter of energy, he's rushing things along. The U.S. Energy Information Agency projects that the U.S. will become a net energy exporter in the next decade, primarily because of a boom in oil and gas production that began before Trump's presidency. The Trump White House has predicted that could happen sooner, by 2020. But that's not "now."
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    TRUMP: "We slashed the business tax rate from 35 percent all the way down to 21 percent, so American companies can compete and win against anyone else anywhere in the world. These changes alone are estimated to increase average family income by more than $4,000. A lot of money."
    THE FACTS: Few economists think average incomes will jump by $4,000 simply because companies are paying less in taxes.
    The figure cited by Trump comes from his chief economist, Kevin Hassett. Many mainstream economists poked wide holes into this claim, including the author of one of the research papers cited by Hassett. Economists generally say most of the savings from lower corporate taxes would flow to investors, rather than workers. The problem with the $4,000 claim is that Trump is essentially promising $500 billion in income gains across the entire economy from tax cuts that are a small fraction of that total on an annual basis.
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    TRUMP: "Since we passed tax cuts, roughly 3 million workers have already gotten tax cut bonuses — many of them thousands and thousands of dollars per worker."
    THE FACTS: This appears to be true, but may not be as impressive as it sounds. According to a tally of public announcements by Americans for Tax Reform, a conservative group that supported the tax law, about 3 million workers have gotten bonuses, raises or larger payments to their retirement accounts since the tax law was signed.
    That's about 2 percent of the more than 154 million Americans with jobs. The Labor Department said before the tax package was signed into law that 38 percent of workers would probably get some form of bonus in 2017.
    Few companies have yet granted across-the-board pay raises, which Trump and GOP leaders promised would result from the cut in corporate tax rates included in the overhaul. Many, such as Walmart and BB&T Bank, said they will raise their minimum wages. Walmart made similar announcements in 2015 and 2016.
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    TRUMP: "Many car companies are now building and expanding plants in the United States, something we haven't seen for decades."
    THE FACTS: He's wrong about recent decades. The auto industry has regularly been opening and expanding factories since before Trump became president. Toyota opened its Mississippi factory in 2011. Hyundai's plant in Alabama dates to 2005. In 2010, Tesla fully acquired and updated an old factory to produce its electric vehicles.
    Trump also declared that "Chrysler is moving a major plant from Mexico to Michigan." That's not exactly the case, either. Chrysler announced it will move production of heavy-duty pickup trucks from Mexico to Michigan, but the plant is not closing in Mexico. It will start producing other vehicles for global sales and no change in its workforce is anticipated.
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    TRUMP: "We repealed the core of the disastrous Obamacare — the individual mandate is now gone."
    THE FACTS: No, it's not gone. It's going, in 2019. People who go without insurance this year are still subject to fines.
    Congress did repeal the unpopular requirement that most Americans carry insurance or risk a tax penalty, but that takes effect next year.
    It's a far cry from what Trump and the GOP-led Congress set out to do last year, which was to scrap most of the sweeping Obama-era health law and replace it with a Republican alternative. The GOP blueprint would have left millions more Americans uninsured, making it even more unpopular than "Obamacare."
    Other major parts of the overhaul remain in place, including its Medicaid expansion, protections for people with pre-existing conditions, guaranteed "essential" health benefits, and subsidized private health insurance for people with modest incomes.
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    TRUMP: "Our massive tax cuts provide tremendous relief for the middle class and small business."
    THE FACTS: That depends on how you define tremendous. The biggest beneficiaries from the tax law are wealthy Americans and corporations.
    Most Americans will pay less in taxes this year. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center estimates that about 80 percent of U.S. households will get a tax cut, with about 15 percent seeing little change and 5 percent paying more.
    Middle-class households — defined as those making between roughly $49,000 and $86,000 a year — will see their tax bills drop by about $930, the Tax Policy Center calculates. That will lift their after-tax incomes by 1.6 percent.
    The richest 1 percent, meanwhile, will save $51,140, lifting their after-tax incomes by 3.4 percent, or more than twice as much as the middle class.
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    TRUMP: "Last year, I also pledged that we would work with our allies to extinguish ISIS from the face of the Earth. One year later, I am proud to report that the coalition to defeat ISIS has liberated very close to 100 percent of the territory just recently held by these killers in Iraq and in Syria and in other locations, as well. But there is much more work to be done. We will continue our fight until ISIS is defeated."
    THE FACTS: Although it's true that the Islamic State group has lost nearly 100 percent of the territory it held in Syria and Iraq when the U.S. began airstrikes in both countries in 2014, Syria remains wracked by civil war, with much of that country controlled by the government of Russian ally Syrian President Bashar Assad and not by U.S.-allied groups. The Iraqi government has declared itself fully liberated from IS.
    The progress cited by Trump did not start with his presidency. The U.S.-led coalition recaptured much land, including several key cities in Iraq, before he took office. And the assault on Mosul, which was the extremists' main stronghold in northern Iraq, was begun during the Obama administration. But in the past year the counter-ISIS campaign has accelerated, based largely on the approach Trump inherited.
    He's right that more remains to be done to eliminate IS as an extremist threat, even after it has been defeated militarily. The group is still able to inspire attacks in the West based on its ideology, and it is trying to make inroads in places like Afghanistan and Libya.
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    Associated Press writers Josh Boak, Matthew Daly, Josh Lederman, Robert Burns and Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar contributed to this report

    https://ca.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-trumps-speech-stretches-taxes-energy-011328822.html
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    Владимир_СА Гость

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    Чё сказать-то хотел, болезный?
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    Неизвестный домохозяйка

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    Just 37 percent of Americans approve of the job he is doing, according to the latest survey by the Pew Research Center, lower than any modern president after a year in office and no better for all of his efforts. Forty-one percent think he will be an unsuccessful president, twice as many as last year and nearly twice as many as those who think he will be successful. Far fewer Americans think he keeps his promises than thought so when he was inaugurated.
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    стольный Абитуриент

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    Лично вам - ничего.
    И с чего вдруг такая болезненная реакция?
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    Чукча Абитуриент

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    Это для изучающих язык?
    Так таких ту раз-два и обчелся
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    Специалистам давно известно что эти рейтинги оценивают не самого Президента а эффективность пропаганды СМИ за или, в данном случае, против Президента.
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    Orange Douchebag covfefe4ever

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    )))))))))))))

    "Although I disagreed with almost everything he said, for Trump, the speech was clear and well-delivered. Whoever translated it for him from Russian did a good job."

    "Несмотря на то, что я не согласен практически со всем, что было сказано, для самого Трампа речь была ясная и хорошо донесенная. Тот, кто перевел ее для него с русского, проделал отличную работу."

    --Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), on Trump's SOTU address

    https://gutierrez.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/guti-rrez-state-union-address
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    Это не болезненная реакция это очередная истерика владимирсы ))
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    Я лично еще не видел президента, чьи предвыборные обещания во многом совпадали с реальными шагами.
    Он обещал "America first".

    Безработица на рекордно низком уровне, доходы работающих растут, экономика растет, нелегальная эмиграция сокращается.
    Разве не этого хотят американцы?

    О чем плачут его оппоненты?
    Трамп запретил вьезд гражданам стран - источников международного терроризма, вышел из международного соглашения о климате, перестал платить деньги разным странам и международным организациям под эгидой ООН, выселяет нелегалов на основании законов, принятых до него, отказывается давать статус детям нелегалов, хочет построить забор вдоль Мексики.
    Что из перечисленного не в интересах Америки?

    Послушать либерастов, все эти нелегалы, арабы, глобалисты важнее для Америки и американцев, чем благополучие самих американцев.
    Пидараст Шумер заявляет, если Трамп отменит программу ДРИМ для детей нелегалов, то демократы будут бойкотировать принятие федерального финансового плана на следующий год. Этот гондон понимает, что он избран народом для того, чтобы в первую очередь решать проблемы Америки и американцев, а не детей гватемальских-мексиканских нелегалов? Какие вопросы первоочердные? Им важнее судьба нелегалов, чем судьба американцев?
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    И более того. В речи Трампа практически ни слова про Россию, ни слова про Путина. И это в тот самый день, когда администрация должна была что предпринять по антипутинским санкциям.
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    Ну хоть один день отдохнули от продолжающейся уже второй год истерики по поводу России и её Хуйла.
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    Можно подумать, при предыдущем президенте она росла, а как пришёл Трамп, так безработица в разы обвалилась
    [IMG]
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    стольный Абитуриент

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    Понятно, враждебность путинской России к США (и это факт), является для вас всего лишь "истерикой". Ну ну.
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    Orange Douchebag covfefe4ever

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    Ты совсем глупый? Он разрушает американскую систему, ломает демократию - при нём члены Конгресса стали бегать в Белый дом за указаниями, он лжёт и лжёт, он на крючке у недружественной страны и делает всё что они от него требуют. При нём мы увидели первые признаки авторитаризма за всю историю существования этой страны а из истории мы знаем не раз что трансформация демократии в авторитаризм обычное дело - Римская республика в империю, германские демократии в автократии. При нём появилось гостелерадио с пропагандой в лице fucks news.

    А всё что ты сказал это заслуги Обамы - экономика не включается или выключается кнопкой как микроволновая печь.

    Хотя что это я стараюсь савушкинцу объяснить ))
    big-bang нравится это.
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    Например?

    Например?

    А вот при Обаме как раз помню, что ФБР, Прокуратуру и налоговое управление США активно использовали против оппонентов.

    примеры привести? На случай, если твои начальники от тебя скрывают.
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    Не надо так думать. Но что плохого в том, что она упала еще ниже?
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